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Pubs called The Duke of York should not change names, punters say

Pubs called The Duke of York should not change names, punters say
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Gamblers have said pubs called the Duke of York should not change their name despite the Queen stripping Andrew of his honorary military roles.

Bar-goers have argued that while Andrew holds the duchy, some bars hold the title longer than the Queen’s second eldest son.

Meanwhile, some pub owners called the Duke of York have distanced themselves from the current title holder in the wake of sexual assault allegations against the royal family.

Andrew denies all the allegations made against him.

A gastropub told the PA news agency that it would decide next week whether to change its name while one of the country’s largest pub chains insisted the Duke of York’s pub had no connection to Andrew.

Bobby Bucher, 29, a music promoter, was drinking at The Duke of York pub in Southwark, south London, with her friend Christine Malecke, 32, on Friday.

Ms Bucher told PA: “I don’t think it is 100% necessary for pubs to change their names. Pubs have been around for a long time and it’s not Prince Andrew’s name there.

“I think if the pubs changed their name it would be a big statement in terms of the allegations, but in terms of business, I run a business, and I feel it could be difficult in terms of marketing.

“We didn’t realize her name when we came here – it wouldn’t stop me from going to a pub because it’s not related to the pub itself.”

At the Duke of York pub in Victoria, central London, 25-year-old delivery driver Lawrence Ockelford said he also believed establishments should not change their names.

The Duke of York, as a colonel in the Grenadier Guards, at a memorial in Bruges in 2019 (Jonathan Brady/PA)

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“It’s just a title. Obviously, what he’s accused of is not good, but you can’t really erase history.” “I guess you shouldn’t glorify him as a person but it’s okay to keep the names.”

His girlfriend, Evie Hinks, 25, the funeral home assistant, added: “I can see why they would, I think it would be a real shame for them to change their name. More than anything, I think he should lose his title. All these great bars and places, no It should be up to them because it’s not their fault.”

When asked if she would stop going to the pubs called the Duke of York, she added, “Yes, I will make an informed decision about whether to go to the pubs called the Duke of York.”

Harsh Ball, 32, a medical student who was also drinking at the pub said: ‘I don’t think pubs need to change their names because the pub itself is an institution while this is just someone connected to an alleged incident.

“I’ve been to this pub for the past decade now – I don’t think you can associate a place or location with someone.”

The Duke of York’s Pub in Victoria, London (Elspeth Keep/PA)

George Cork, general manager of the Duke of York’s pub in Southwark, said he would not change the name of his pub.

“There are no plans to change the name,” he told the PA. “The Duke of York has been called the Duke of York for a long time now – it has to do with the title and the original Duke of York since the 1300s.

“Everyone has a right to their opinion, but it does not belong to us in any way. The pub has been around for a long time and there are 52 pubs across the UK that probably feel the same way.

“If clients are not coming to my pub because of the current allegations, I’m not sure I want them as a guest,” he added.

In Marylebone in west London, the director of The Duke of York Gastropub said there would be a meeting on Monday next week to discuss a possible name change.

“We won’t decide either direction until next week at a meeting between the owners,” the manager, who wished to remain anonymous, told PA.

The Duke of York’s Pub in Southwark (Elspeth Keep/PA)

“It’s a business name change with the bank, and on credit card machines, so it’s not only simple, but no decision has been made on that at the moment.”

Westminster, who owns the Duke of York’s pub in Hanover Square, Green King, said the pub has not been named after the current Duke of York and has had that name since the 19th century.

The Duke of York’s Pub in Fitzrovia, central London, bears a portrait of Andrew and is still in a relationship with the Duke.

The pub did not want to comment on Friday on whether it would change its name or branding.

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